What professionals and businesses say

1.   Gavin Ross – Fire fighter & Salvington Neighbourhood Policing Panel
2.   Chris Chatfield – MD of Compass Travel (major bus service in Worthing)

3.   Andrew Dyer – MD of Stagecoach South (major bus service in Worthing)
4.   Lib Dichello –  MD of Arrow Taxi’s
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Paul & Gill Marten – Owners of A&A Cars, Worthing
6.    Steve Powell – Taxi driver (Arrow)
7.   Jan Piechocki – Ex Met traffic officer and accident investigator
8.  
Dr James Anderson MBChB MRCGP – former snr partner Shelley Rd Surgery
9.    Michael Cloake – WSCC Councillor & Worthing CLC
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.  Roger Oakley – WSCC Councillor & Worthing CLC

  

20pSpeech marks”I have been a fire fighter for twenty five years, lived in Worthing for twenty two years and worked out of Worthing fire station for the last fifteen. In my career I have seen many terrible road traffic collisions and been involved in a number of accident reduction schemes for the fire service.

So it may appear a little odd to you that I will be voting NO for the 20mph reduction.

My reasons are this:-

The majority of serious road traffic collisions I attend are usually outside the town on B roads where speeds are considerably higher than 30mph.

There are many factors that can cause road traffic collisions and sometimes speed is a factor but more commonly drug and alcohol abuse, distraction, weather conditions, illness and even mechanical malfunction to name but a few.

I am also the chairman of the Salvington Neighbourhood Policing Panel and as part of this have been out with a Speed Indication Device monitoring traffic speeds within the Salvington area.

This has given me a great insight as to the actual speeds of traffic as opposed to the assumed speeds that people watching a car go by with a noisy exhaust think they are doing! 

Generally collisions occur because people are not paying attention or get distracted.

This is borne out by the statistics.  Most accidents happen five minutes from home when people are familiar with the roads and the vehicle and thus lapse their concentration.   Not because they are speeding.

When I first heard about the scheme I thought it sounded a good idea. However having looked into other cities that have implemented a 20mph Limit (not a 20mph zone) it is very obvious that it has little effect on safety and does almost nothing to reduce congestion or make people use alternative transport. 

Unfortunately the Government is about to under fund the County Councils by a further 20% within the next three years. This is a huge amount in reductions which will see definite cuts in services. You may not be aware that the Council funds The Police Force, Fire Service, Local Health Care and Education. 

The Council can’t afford to throw money away on such an expensive scheme that has such a chequered history around the country not to mention that if the scheme were rolled out it would reduce bus services and have a minor negative effect on commerce.

If you vote yes and expect more lives to be saved and a reduction in vehicle movements due to people using alternative transport then I think you will be very disappointed in the results.” 

~ Gavin Ross, Worthing ~

20pSpeech marks “Compass Travel operates bus routes throughout Worthing and we are very concerned at the effect the suggested 20 mph limit would have on our services. Most of our routes operate to a regular hourly frequency, with little layover time, so that even a slight reduction in speed would make the timetable impossible to keep to.

We would therefore have no option but to review our routes and would unfortunately have to withdraw bus services from routes with 20 mph limits.” 

~ Chris Chatfield, MD of Compass Travel ~

20pSpeech marks”Stagecoach has real concerns about how 20mph speed limits might slow down bus services and potentially lead to fewer services, increased fares or both.”

~ Andrew Dyer, MD of Stagecoach South ~

20pSpeech marks“Arrow P.H. group (inc. Starlight and M&D Cars) are not in favour of the proposed 20mph speed limit as it will mean journeys will take longer, use more fuel and therefore increase fares”

~ Lib Dichello, MD of Arrow Taxi’s ~

20pSpeech marks”All the staff and drivers at A&A Cars are not in favour of the proposed 20mph blanket speed limit over the Worthing area. We feel that journey times will increase, drivers will use more fuel ( In an inefficient way ) and  fares will have to increase.”

~ Paul & Gill Marten, Owners of A&A Cars, Worthing ~

20pSpeech marks“Taxi drivers are a sensible breed of driver. We are trained and tested. Our knowledge of Worthing and ability to drive well for long hours is not seen in other occupations.

If the speed limit is dropped to 20mph, we will not be able to do the work as quickly. Therefore taxi waiting times will increase, annoying the public. As we are paid per job, and after the expenses of running a taxi we pay tax on 50% or less of gross. We all need to earn enough money to live and feed our children. Unfortunately the lower the speed limit, the longer we will have to work. The less time we will get with our families. None of us want this.

In the end, prices will have to increase to cover the loss, and that will be from the public’s pockets. So they will all be paying to get the scheme implemented and then be paying extra for going to work and going out for the night. Its just not fare on them. 

Let us all vote NO to this copycat idea from the ill-informed busy bodies of Worthing. 30mph is absolutely fine.” 

~ Steve Powell, Taxi driver (Arrow) ~

20pSpeech marks“This idea of 20mph zones/limits is getting monotonous as opposed to boring. I don’t believe that reducing the limit to 20mph will actually save lives/reduce injury, because I can cite many real instances of actual deaths under that speed, reduced damage yes, but deaths/injuries no. Low speed impacts can cause a cyclist/pedestrian to go under the vehicle as opposed to being pushed aside as is if a higher speed. As I spent 17 years dealing with accident scenes as an accident investigator I think I am qualified to make this observation. I cannot agree with some interpretation of statistics that denies that the accident rate has gone up, such as in the experimental 20mph zone in Portsmouth.

The blanket 20mph speed limit/Zone encourages drivers minds to wander, it makes conscientious drivers worry about their speedometer at the expense of their surroundings, it gives pedestrians a false sense of security, it encourages drivers to ignore the limit in areas within the zone where a higher speed is safe to do so thus encouraging contempt for the limit overall. I am afraid that the motorized vehicle is here for the foreseeable future whether we like it or not.”

~ Jan Piechocki, Ex Met traffic officer & accident investigator ~

20pSpeech marks”As a former senior partner of Shelley Road Surgery (Now Worthing Medical Group) I’d like to add my objection to a town-wide 20mph speed limit. It would put a real burden on ‘on call’ doctors doing emergency calls especially at quiet times in late evening and overnight, adding to waiting time for patients. 

Obviously I have no objections to such a speed limit around vulnerable areas like schools, medical surgeries, shops e.g. whole of the shop end of Rowlands Road, accident black-spots and even the sea front in Goring (a ban on parking on both sides of the road would seem more effective on such narrow roads). But I can’t see any real advantage of its introduction on the majority of roads in Worthing. 

Money would also probably be better spent on more pedestrian crossings and suitable pedestrian bridges (for all users) especially on the A24, A27 and A259.  

As a driver of old vintage cars I’m used to slow/low speeds and such cars are suited to such speeds but modern car drivers will have difficulty getting out of 2 or 3rd gear with consequent increased engine inefficiency and pollution, maybe presenting more of a risk not only to pedestrians but also to the whole population. 

I hope that common sense will prevail.”

~ Dr James Anderson MBChB MRCGP ~

20pSpeech marks“20mph all over Worthing – who wants it? I am getting seriously concerned about the costs of the proposed 20′s Plenty scheme. We really are talking a lot of money – not just the advertised costs, it’s the hidden costs which make you gulp:

£16,000 – the cost of preliminary speed surveys across Worthing (spent)
£50,000 – the cost of a consultation to ask residents whether they want a 20mph scheme or not (given the green light to go ahead)
£300,000 – the estimated implementation cost of the lesser of the two Options, a partial 20mph scheme in Worthing (ring fenced if consultation is positive)
£850,000-£1.2m – the potential extra funding needed if complaints are received (who’s going to pay this?)

But there’s more. If the consultation proves an overwhelming success for the campaign (which admittedly doesn’t look likely right now following recent Worthing Herald report) and the smaller of the schemes referred to as ‘Option 2′ is implemented then we get some shiny new 20mph signs on all streets in Worthing that the speed surveys show have an average speed of 24mph or below….

 

Continued here  

~ Michael Cloake, WSCC Councillor & Worthing CLC ~

 20pSpeech marks“I have spoken to the Herald about the poll (83% said no to 20mph in Worthing) and I am quite satisfied that it is an honest reflection of the views of Worthing residents. In light of this, I shall be asking members of the CLC at the next meeting how to properly respond.

While I am mindful the CLC was committed to the consultation, I am concerned the overall result would be similar to the poll.” 

~ Roger Oakley, WSCC Councillor & Worthing CLC ~